Paul Washer is a False Prophet – Jay Dyer

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I was, for several years in my early 20s a supporter of Paul Washer.  To me he seemed a godly leader: A real missionary, and a true “reformer.” I played his sermons on tape in my car on long drives and even made copies to distribute to my fellow damned college students, thirsting for the “true Gospel of God’s grace.” I met Washer and spoke with him on theology several times during that bizarre phase and what is now very humorous upon reflection is how absurd the carnival barker Washer seems now.

As I matured in biblical theology and Church History the formation of the biblical canon became more and more of a central topic.  I eventually came to reject common (unfounded) Protestant dogmas, such as sola scriptura and sola fide for the simple reason they were unheard of until the time of the Reformation.  Prior to Luther and Calvin, the doctrines of sola fide and sola scriptura were laughably non-existent.  There is a nuclear embarrassment for these positions – that of a complete blackout of Protestant theology for the first 1,500 years of the Church.  Apparently, the Holy Spirit forgot the Church, but the good news is, in this perilous times God brought us the magnificent Paul Washer who cries on cue at the same point in his emo revivalist stage theatric “sermons” (that has to be the spirit moving him!).

The last time I spoke to Paul Washer, he literally had me thrown out of a Baptist Church by his retarded goon groupies because I asked him privately where the Church was for the first 1,500 years.  Washer, who lauds and praises his own “openness to correction” and fervent desire to be righted is more of a low grade rock star for the backwoods rejects and college pansies who worship at his altar.   Washer snorted at me thrice, as the pitch rose to yell, “It was a complete blackout, Jay, a complete blackout–a blackout!”

Paul Washer was quite flippant and open about his newly found Anabaptistic worldview–that the Church had been forsaken, and that the Anabaptists (literally the most retarded of all heretics) had possibly restored it.  But Paul is a Calvinist, and the Anabaptists, for the most part, weren’t.  So apparently we have a restored Church by heretics, at some unknown time wheeled in as a deus ex machina to explain Washer’s nonsensical circus – somehow Paul Washer has a connection to this small, holy band of Luddites (who no longer exist by the way, aside from Amish and Mennonites). Yet who is truly the Church? It can’t be those nasty “Orthodox idolators”–even though in 2001 Paul Washer was quoting Orthodox Bishops in his sermons (like St. Augustine, Bishop of Hippo)!  The Church, for Paul, also can’t be those baby-baptizing Calvinists, because Paul Washer believes only adult baptism is the mark of the true believer’s church.

It can only be the guru Paul Washer himself, who, for all his zeal against Joel Osteen and for all his 1 million hits plus on youtube have suckered Baptists into following his own novelties.  Consider this same overly dramatic sermon I have seen Paul Washer preach several times–and each time he preaches the same words, with the same emotions and pauses, just as theatrical as a Benny Hinn crusade, but with more Calvinist fire and brimstone.

Are we to believe that God truly moves St. Washer to the same recognition of his own “smallness” and public piety, every time he preaches this rehearsed sermon?  Why is it this is the same prayer I’ve heard him say over and over and over, with the same bombastic emotions?  Consider what he says at the beginning of his sermon: if he is a false prophet, he should be avoided.  He is a false prophet. He does not teach the doctrines of the Orthodox Church nor the Ecumenical Councils.  In fact, he abhors the Church and her definitions and serves and aggrandizes himself.  He is openly a Nestorian, as the lot of Calvinists are. Maybe Paul just enjoys “rebuking” the college girls for their short shorts.

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40 Comments on Paul Washer is a False Prophet – Jay Dyer

  1. i got converted listening to his message

  2. Paul Washer and his fans read from false bibles. Whenever you ask Paul Washer by email or hand written letter to obey the scriptures he won’t do it. He’ll condemn people all day long because they believe they are saved by faith but PW will never obey Jesus Christ.

    Paul Washer doesn’t obey Matthew 5:42
    Paul Washer doesn’t isn’t willing to communicate (and he has this world’s good) 1 Timothy 6:18
    Paul Washer takes on flocks so large he can’t feed them.
    Paul Washer’s followers are very rude and falsely accuse people who won’t worship him (by definition)
    Paul Washer sounds nice and appears to love Jesus but he does not obey Jesus.
    Paul Washer often boasts of how he does great and mighty deeds and travels sea and land to share “the gospel” all along while he does not obey or observe anything that Jesus commands.
    Paul Washer is a hypocrite of the highest degree standing in a house called by God’s name.
    Men speak well of Paul Washer as they did the false prophets.

    “Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.” (Luke 6:26 KJV)

    May God smite Paul Washer and his congregation that they fall and rise not up again. May all those who financially support Paul Washer suffer his fate. When the blind lead the blind both fall into a ditch.

  3. And you do?

  4. Well… if Paul Washer is a hypocrite he would be contradictory to himself! Many people does not think or speak well about him becaus he criticizes the false Christianity and calls to follow hard after Jesus Christ not after Paul Washer! He calls to self-denial and to honor God with all of our heart, mind and strength. I really do not know that a false prophet does such things… i got encouraged by listening to his sermons to give 100% for Jesus Christ!
    i guess he is a human and needs Gods amazing Grace like we all do 😉 … but he is defintely not a false prophet!

  5. Amen Toby! It’s interesting that he ended it with “He is a false prophet. He does not teach the doctrines of the Catholic Church..”. It’s quite the other way around. If he taught the doctrines of the Catholic church, there would be good reason to call him a false prophet.

  6. Hi

    I am from Albania, and I find Paul Washer very Biblical, we need man of God like Him here in Albania with all these non biblical things that are in our churches today.

    • You are right! We need people like him for not fallin´ a sleep in this times where much things affect our church!

  7. These don’t sound like real reasons to call him a false prophet. It sounds more like you just don’t like him or Calvinists.

  8. Jay… and the above posters… I fear for you, I am NOT an adherent to Paul Washer yet recognize him clearly as a brother. I have barely heard what he says, yet. With certainty, I tell you, forget about Paul Washer, you are stumbling upon a man, His message is not about himself, are you blind? you simply distract yourself by filling your minds with the doctrines of man. You seek doctrine, you seek understanding but you don’t seek God. Repent of this or you are surely lost. Woe to the man who speaks by their own understanding. To others reading Jays post be warned: “They will fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord. They keep saying to those who despise me, ‘the Lord says: You will have pace.’ and to all who follow the stubbornness of their hearts they say, ‘no harm will come to you.’ But which of them has stood in the council of the Lord to see or hear his word. Who has listened and heard his word.” Surely… not the mind that leans upon its own flesh and understanding. Jay and fellow followers. I fear that you are lost, but there is still time. I have stood in the council of the Lord and a judgement is coming. Jeremiah 23:19-31

    • Amen!

    • “Repentance is an evangelical grace, wherein the Holy Spirit makes a person aware of the manifold evil of his sin, so that he humbles himself with godly sorrow, detesting sin, and abhorring [i.e., hating] self, with a purpose and endeavor to walk before God so as to please Him in all things.”

      “Apparent sincerity of confession alone is never definite evidence of genuine repentance. It must be accompanied by a turning away from sin.”– heartcrymissionary.com, website of Paul Washer

      Now let’s look at what the Bible says.

      Acts 16:30-31: “And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

      Did Paul and Silas tell the jailor to “repent of sin” so be saved? Did they tell him to experience godly sorrow for sin? Did they tell him to hate sin? NO. That is Lordship Salvation heresy. What did Paul say about people who teach doctrines contradicting what Paul himself was teaching?

      Romans 16:17-18: “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.”

      Galatians 1:6-9: “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”

      Paul Washer is a FALSE PROPHET teaching a FALSE GOSPEL. What is wrong with modern day “Christians” who cannot see this? How can you be so blind? How can you follow the “good words” and “fair speeches” of deceivers like Paul Washer, and claim that he is of God? Wake up already! You’re just making yourself look totally uninformed.

  9. In so far as a human being can tell, Paul Washer is committed enough and genuine enough to have already claimed the promise of John 7:17, “If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”

    We are sanctified by the truth, “Sancify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” John 17:17.

    We need to have the unconditional love of the Spirit of Truth.

  10. I am surprised by the number of Protestants/Paul washer fans that apparently read this blog. Interesting. How did you react when PW was yelling in your face? That’s pretty wild.

    • when i am able to capture the spirit by which a man speaks, i have no need to be angry or offended if he is speaking a truth to my face. If I am honest and sincere with myself, I know in my own heart of hearts if the shoe fits…. many people do not like to be told the truth it makes them uncomfortable and another point our pride and ego gets in the way of accepting that one might be failing in some area….to me that is the whisper that come from God not is a mean derogatory way but in love and that my friend takes me back to where I started….

  11. jobinkottaram // November 2, 2012 at 8:15 am //

    At the end of the day it is all about Jesus. I am convinced that Mr. Washer is not a false prophet.

  12. Liz Sluder // November 3, 2012 at 7:44 pm //

    We can all have different theology, but we can also be influenced by the preaching. I have been watching Washer for 5 years now, and just recently I was surprised that he was Calvinist, but that does not change my views on his passion about preaching the Gospel.

    • I agree with you Liz, and only a solid Christian can say that. Unfortunately, there are many who could lose faith because of his doctrine regarding the elect. Many will be led astray by some of his teaching…but I pray the Lord leads him in the right direction because he certainly appears to have the passion for Christ.

      • Your poor People! Instead of Reading our bibels and studying it intensively we are discussing about a servant whether he reached perfection on his Way to God or not! When he Talks about the bible i guess PW is right when he tells you that a tree that Bears no fruit will be burned. Do we want to put PW in the corner of the calvinists and so on? What would he say? I know that he would Never say that a True Christian could lose faith! But i know that many people does think they are saved cause of One prayer… If Jesus truely comes in your Heart you will Not be the same! So we have to ask ourselves whether we playing a Game and christianity is just some little Part in our lifes or that Jesus the King of Kings and Lord of Lords saved a Wicked sinner like me, Not to be like i was but to become more like Jesus! Folks, read your bibles!

  13. I believe Paul Washer is a good man and yet false in his own right…his anger gives him away. We are to be slow to anger and yet his anger is often seen throughout many of his sermons. Lastly, to teach that only the elect are saved is also false.

    Is it not possible since God’s ways are not our ways that there are “the elect” and perhaps “others” just as John 10:16 speaks of…
    “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also…

    It is very clear to me…pray for Paul that his eyes will also be opened…we all have our role in the body of Christ and yes God uses even Paul Washer to lead many to himself and those that God draws to Himself and obey will see the difference between false and true teaching because they know the voice of the true Shepherd…

    Faith is to be perfected…ST. Paul clearly states this…how do we not know that Paul Washer’s faith has yet to be perfected…stop judging and start entering into the presence of God to deliver ALL from evil.

    • Margaret you are 1000% true in all you said. That was why Mother Theresa said if we spend much time condemning people we have no time to love them. This woman never condemned any one, but spent her time helping the poor and condemning sin.

  14. David Bright // January 22, 2013 at 1:24 pm //

    Yes, but who are His sheep. I would advice you to read all of john 10. I believe you will find that when you get to John 10:25-29, that it is only the Sheep that the Father has given him and I respect Paul Washer very much.

  15. I cal Paul Washer always Paul Brainwasher.

  16. Well I am angry as well about the things in he churches, but I now on the other hand hat we live in the last days of the End times and everything is coming out. The false religious ways of saan and also I know that these kind of teachers we need to have because of the fact that we need to devide the bocks from the sheep. Where he was mad off, stays in 2.Tim. 4. People wants to hear who wants to here, but that makes Christianity also under Soma saying religion (Ezek. 16:45-63) and therfor the christianity stays under the old Jeruzalm under the whore Oholiba. Nothng new , because in the Big general curch which is the Roman Catholic Church came all the other churches out. We see that as well in Ezek. 23:29 and 34.

    Now Paul Washer talks to the people about those hings as a warning I look to it as a Bible teacher who knows these things excists nowadays. Both are needed the wide path and the narrow path. We can warn, but is that nessecary? God knows his sheep and He take out of the people out oft the churches and we see that nowadays and becoming teached by Christ Himself in their inner rooms. Gods doing this. Also we need to warn, bt to become mad about it I doubt it has its effect. Yes I was that too, ut God gave me the whole picture to see. Tat the whole church becoming backslidden is because all of these things neededto happen; it sits in Gods Plan who’s started from the beginning of the Bible.

    Now I know that how closer you become to the truthfull gospel the more dangerous the teaching becomes and how more raffinated the teachng will be. The gospel is a free gift for everyone who wants to have it. For the unbelievers and the defiled ones is not the gospel. They all like or ther own religion or a vage christianity religion. That’s how it is. Now I disresppect a false teaching in spiritual way and also as a person. I an become furious when I speak with them and I promise you I will put all the spiritual conseqences on the table and than it doesn’t dare about it what the think. I am in teh authority of Christ and I speak. Therefor my only teacher is Jesus Christ who works in my heart ad teaches me. He is the Only One. Than go out of the churches and take Jess Christ as you Saviour and let He teaches you and for sure you come out of a who ddifferent gospel. The gospel of the Kingdom. That you can only becoming taught by Jesus Christ and not by men. Now why sitting second class if you can also sit first class in the first row. I dothe ast and I have forgotten my life in the flesh and now we see that God is fully providing me in every spiritual blessing in the Heaven. Thats for all who are walking in spirital way the narrow path. Not as a reward to have eternal life, but just that as a free gift and we don’t need to do anything for it; just receiving the faith of Jesus Christ and He will do the rest hrough us. Amen.

  17. What a terribly hard-hearted exposé of a Christian man. You claim the Catholic Church, with it’s idolatry and extolling of fallible men into places of authority that is the sole right of Christ to be in, to be a measuring rod for teachers of the Word? Quite insulting. The hatred and vile claims being made, such as saying those who support him should go down to hell with him, basically what is said, are the most non-Christlike actions imaginable. Shame. So much shame. You misunderstand a man’s theology and doctrines and lambast him for it, crucifying him for following the risen Christ and Him alone.

  18. Is it not that we are saved by grace through faith? Well if that it is than there is sitting obedience under it, but that comes from Gods side out and not from ours. Why? Because we can’t follow Christ from our nature on, because for Christ we are died with Him and we are dead. and a dead person can not sin. That’s the reason, because he is dead. He can’t do bad works and good works; only what Christ is doing through you are in Gods eyes good works, because they are coming from Him.

    No in the practice of life means that we are dead so a dead person can’t sin and God looks to us in Christ Jesus and that’s clean holy and perfect and according to Rom. 8:38-39 can’t anything come between us and God accept a false teaching who leads us through the good side of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and than through the good side we are going to the bad side. I decided one thing. I don’t want to listen to all those preachers anymore. Even I can’t listen 5 minutes of it without I become sick of there vain in pride bathing speeches. One kingdom of satan goes against the other kingdom of Satan and both they are sitting under the spirit of the Antichrist and Satan is their leaders. So I have a relationship with Jesus Christ I need to avoid the churches which were all the temples out of the Book of Nehemiah.

    When you read the Book of Ezekiel very well than you see that those temples of Nehemiah are the churches nowadays under the Christianity. Now the Christianity stays under the old Jerusalem (Ezek. 23:4) and the churches in the Christianity comes forth out of the Roman Catholic church which is the huge General church in Ezek. 23:29 34. There where not Jesus Christ reigns but the spirit of the Antichrist. All the other churches are coming forth out of that. When people start to speak about churches and Christianity you can see directly that he or she is serving the Spirit of the Antichrist under all those fake churches of the Christianity where Christ through their all vain false teachings in so any spiritual kingdoms under Satan that is better to avoid all the churches and sitting in your inner room and get taught by Christ alone.

    Now in fact of Paul ‘Brainwasher’ I know his teaching. Poetically the Calvin teaching here in the Netherlands. his teachings fits good in the Reformed and Dutch reformed State churches. Now only the evangelical and Pentecostal churches preach the born again relationship with Christ. Nit those Catholic-; Reformed or Dutch Reformed churches. Now that means that Paul Washer stays for our Reformed and Dutch Reformed churches where not believe is staying in the center, but just obedience only. But its through faith that we are saved by the grace of Jesus Christ and than we are following after Hos own pleasure (Philp. 2:13-14) and not with obedience we got saved, because when you ar not saved by grace through faith and you want just obey the Lord is not possible, because the flesh is against the Spirit and the Spirit is against the flesh. And the flesh doesn’t obey the Lord Jesus Christ; therefor you need faith and than also faith in Gods Plan. We can’t obey Godneed us to make us that we can obey and than we need to become born again through faith and grace an than God is able to take the lust of sin away. Now when we have that; we can obey the Lord.

    I can see that the church leader from Paul Washer is not Jesus Christ….Johannes Calvijn.

  19. I know Jesus Christ and I know Paul Washer, who are u Mr. Jay?

  20. Is Paul Washer a false prophet? A simple look at the Bible’s definition of a false prophet will answer this question. Acts 13:6 mentions a false prophet who was with the deputy of the country of Paphos. Paul and Barnabas were preaching the Gospel there. In verse 9, it is said that this false prophet attempted to “turn away the deputy from the faith.” So the mark of a false prophet is one who tries to keep people from believing on Jesus Christ, thus becoming saved. This means that Paul Washer is INDEED a false prophet. He is a devil straight from hell. He hates the simplicity of Christ and has falsely claimed that salvation can take weeks or months. WRONG! Paul Washer is a deceiver! Paul Washer lies to ignorant people who do NOT search the Scriptures themselves to see how ridiculous this deceiver’s lies actually are. Paul Washer hates the Romans Road, because he wants salvation to be something that must be earned, thus making it IMPOSSIBLE. Paul Washer claims salvation is offered freely by God for having faith in Jesus apart from works, but then this wolf in sheep’s clothing goes on to say that without works, one is not saved. Why can’t his IGNORANT followers see this evil doubletalk? Paul Washer is one of many “pastors” fulfilling the prophecy of 1st Timothy 4:1: “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.” Paul Washer is causing people who claim to be saved to fall away from the true faith found in Jesus Christ, and into the trap of believing a holy life is part of salvation, instead of what is expected AFTER ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN SAVED. It is truly, truly sad to see people who claim they know Jesus supporting this man. He may have some truth mixed in with his lies, but that is because the devil knows the best way to lie to people is to be subtle, just as the false prophet was said to be in Acts 13:10. When will Christians actually crack open a Bible and learn the truth? It won’t happen as long as they get their doctrines from enemies of the cross of Christ like Paul Washer.

    What can you be sure of? Paul Washer is a FALSE PROPHET. Is he aware, or is he just plain stupid when it comes to understanding the simplicity of God’s Gospel? I don’t know, but either way, he is a deceiver who is simply fulfilling the many Scriptures that warned of the “ministers of righteousness” that would arrive on the scene to deceive many.

  21. mariusjwb // May 11, 2013 at 9:26 pm //

    Dan, sadly you have no understanding of the scriptures as of YET. What you have taken a few scriptures out context and then built your own dogmatic beliefs around that. It’s called unequivocal fallacy, and the reason you have done this is to excuse your love of sin, and self and hate of God. Inside you know you love your sins more than you do God, and THAT is why you’re against those who hate sin, and why you make excuses for your sins. As Peter said, having your conscience SEERED. Essentially by you taking a few scriptures here and there (and adulterating them) around your OWN preconceived ideology, you have created a god in your mind, a god which does not exist. You have thus broken the second commandment. This is all because you cannot cease from sinning, so you make up any excuse you can conjure out of perverting the scriptures.

    You say, “Paul Washer is causing people who claim to be saved to fall away from the true faith found in Jesus Christ, and into the trap of believing a holy life is part of salvation.” No Dan, that is what Yahushua (Jesus) taught. He said, “Unless you REPENT you will PERISH.” (See Luke 13:3). He told the men and woman He healed “Go and sin ((((((NO MORE))))),” He said “REPENT and BELIEVE.”
    You see in how much error you are Dan? So much so the one who you claim with you mouth is your savior, is the same one you deny by your actions because your deeds are evil. “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who (((DOES))) the will of My Father in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21).
    You see how the scriptures are rebuking your erroneous ungodly ways Dan?

    Moreover, Christ said, “in VAIN do these people worship me, they draw nigh unto me with their mouth (like you Dan), but their HEARTS are FAR from Me.” Again you forget what else the Messiah taught, He said in Matthew 5:48: “Be ye therefore PERFECT, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”
    The Bible says, “Be angry and sin NOT” it says make no provision for the flesh, and John said whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the DEVIL. Paul warned no sodomite, no murderer, no liar, no drunkard, no blasphemer shall inherit or even see the Kingdom of Heaven. The Bible says, we are called to be separate, and to be Holy.

    What did James say? “For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.” (James 2:26). So evidently you condone DEAD works Dan. You see it’s because you haven’t experienced the POWER and conviction of the HOLY GHOST yet.
    It’s all true, we ARE indeed saved by GRACE, and NOT of works, YET simultaneously faith without works is (((DEAD))). Therefore we conclude, that repentance is the RESULT and EVIDENCE that God has saved you, and put His Spirit within you, SO that we may live Holy unto the Lord. NOT because it will earn us a brownie point with God, NO but because we are not our own anymore but the Lord’s.

    The Bible says present your BODIES as a living sacrifice to the Lord. Paul said, “Shall we continue to sin, so that grace may abound? GOD FORBID!”
    James 5:20 states, “Let him know that he who converts a sinner from the ERROR of his way, shall save a soul and hide a multitude of sins.”

    So the one giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons is you, as everything you believe is contrary to SOUND doctrine.
    Dan you need to start praying for wisdom, for understanding, and before you open God’s word ask Him to quicken His word, and apply His word unto your heart, and start humbling yourself. Remember he who hates he’s brother is a MURDERER in his heart, Christ warned. Remove the log out your own eye first, so that you may see CLEARLY before attempting to remove the log out others. God resists the pride and gives grace unto the humble.

    Satan is the accuser of the brethren, so go repent, and understand the price that was paid by Christ, that He has said if you love him to continue in His commandments, and that He has commanded us to REPENT and believe. Start fearing God, it’s the beginning of wisdom. “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (Phillipians 2:12).

    • I want to talk to you about what happened to me. your note was for me. I fell away and didn’t know why and now I see what you wrote and I see me in there. I believe the Lord removed His SPirit from me last year due to me being like you wrote, and you know what, I never knew what a seered conscience meant until after this happened to me. can we talk? I don’t mind being accused if I did wrong because I keep looking back at my life after conversion and I really wasn’t converted because I fell away after adversity and not only that I am the person who had demons in the beginning and didn’t fill my house and now im worse. I need a friend to write to tell me the truth in love, and I don’t feel God loves me but hates me now because I left the faith but still honored him with lip service. who and where are you? wish I had known you from day 1, I needed honesty like this before and I could have been recovered and freed

      • mariusjwb // May 12, 2013 at 8:26 am //

        Hey there Clarrisa,

        I’m in SA (South Africa). Firstly the fact that you are honest enough about yourself, and the fact that you are still actually concerned about your salvation is a good thing. You what the Bible says, “A reproof enters more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool” (Proverbs 17:10). If someone doesn’t care or ignorantly ignores reproof (when God’s word clearly shows there error), THAT’S when there no hope.

        Whether the Lord removed His spirit or not from you I don’t know. What I do know is that the Bible says, not to grieve the Holy Spirit (ie: willful sinning). No one is perfect, we ALL (even who are redeemed in Christ), have sins we struggle with. Maybe it’s anger, maybe it’s pride, maybe it’s a sexual sin we cannot cease from. Nonetheless, we strive for perfection as Christ commanded. However those are sins which in time (through prayer we can overcame by the blood of Christ), BUT there is such a thing as willful sinning. Such as going to a club and been intoxicated, continuous use of God’s name in vain, cussing and swearing, going out and actually committing all kinds of sexual immorality etc etc. Those are willful sins, is NOT how a child of God ought to be, in fact it may be evidence of someone still unsaved.

        I don’t know how you “fell away from the faith” or what your situation entailed. But I know we serve a God whose ready to pardon, “For You, Lord, are good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon You.” (Psalm 86:5) and “The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heart— These, O God, You will not despise” (Psalm 51:17).

        Remember one thing, (and most despise this teaching, but Christ taught it), that no man is able to come to Him, EXCEPT the Father draw Him. In other words, if you are feeling convicted in your heart, and beginning to see your own sinful wretched state (as we are ALL wretched), and are starting to see the TRUE NEED for Christ, you must know, that’s it’s strong evidence that God is perhaps working His salvation in you, and drawing you to repentance. As I mentioned, repentance, and the putting off of sin, is the RESULT and EVIDENCE that God has saved us, NOT the cause of our salvation. Rather the result. Remember Christ said, “You have not chosen Me, I have CHOSEN you.” (See John 15:16).

        Clarissa, there’s always hope as long as you are breathing. In fact the mere fact that you are still breathing and not in hell at this moment is testimony to Yahweh (Jehovah’s) compassion and long suffering. So don’t feel that God hates you, if that were so, He would have taken your life from you and sent you to hell already. Maybe you are been convicted by the Holy Spirit and been lead to truth because He maybe He loves you, and is showing you your errors and drawing you into repentance. As many as the Lord loves He rebukes and chastens (see Revelation 3:19). “This is why James wrote “Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up” (James 4:9-10).

        So remember God IS love, however He is ALSO Holy and MUST punish sins. So we must never sin willfully, but if there are sins such as if by MISTAKE (in the heat of the moment we might cuss), then we know that Christ’s blood cleanses us from ALL unrighteousness. This we know by FAITH. However we ARE to strive for perfection, to REPENT, take up our cross and live our lives for the glory of God. Can not only can, but He WILL forgive ALL your sins, by FAITH in the finished work on Christ when He stood in the judgment seat of those who by FAITH BELIEVE, and TRUST that His died and rose for His sheep. Remember Christ came under the judgment of His Father, He cried “My God my God why have you forsaken Me.” But because He had no sins of His own, but was carrying the sins of His sheep, it was right of God to raise Him from the dead. So now when God sees Christ, He sees Clarissa and all the sins you ever have committed, and when He sees you, He sees the righteousness of Christ. So you are PERFECT in His eyes JUST like Christ, because you are covered by His blood.

        Clarissa, it all comes down to John 3:3 where Yahushau (Jesus) said you MUST be BORN AGAIN. Once that happens you can neither will you EVER go back into the “ways of the world.” As 2 Corinthians 5:17 states: “Therefore if anyone is in Christ He is a NEW creation, old things have passed aways, behold all things are become NEW.”

        Remember what God says: “Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.” (Ezekiel 26:25-27). He is able to do that through Christ and what He accomplished on the cross, when He said: “It is FINISHED.” I pray this helps and gives you more clarity. Below I have given the direct link for a few sermons which I hope would further help you…

        Christ crucified our boast – John Piper: http://media.sermonindex.net/7/SID7148.mp3

        Compel them to come in – CH Spurgeon: http://media.sermonindex.net/11/SID11509.mp3

        Shane Idleman: http://media01.sa-media.com/sermons006/32713115967.mp3

        Satanic seduction in the last days – Carter Conlon: http://media01.sa-media.com/sermons006/32713115967.mp3

        Ray Comfort – Hells best kept secret: http://media.sermonindex.net/0/SID0396.mp3

        My direct email address is mjwheckler@gmail.com Keep looking unto Christ, and what He did on the cross, Be blessed.
        “The lot is cast into the lap, But its every decision is from the Lord,” (Proverbs 16:33).

      • mariusjwb // May 12, 2013 at 7:13 pm //

        Clarissa I responded to your message earlier, just let me know if you got it?

        Blessed.

    • Mariusjwb-

      The saved part of me knows I should answer you in a controlled, calm manner. The flesh part of me wants to ask how you can be such an unlearned hypocrite? The reason I get so short with people when discussing this subject is because I’m sick of all the Pharisees who are choosing to be religious in order that they can brag, and who falsely claim you must be this way in order to be saved. Let’s take a look at how many false claims there are in your post.

      First of all, you and most everyone preaching your false doctrine has NO idea what repentance is. I cannot believe the ignorance of your crowd, and I sincerely mean that. You all say the same thing over and over and over and over again. Repentance is not turning from sin, no matter HOW many times you repeat that. God repented many times in the Old Testament. Seriously, you need to toss out that garbage that has been drilled into your head concerning what repentance is, because you’ve been taught wrong. If you don’t understand a word, don’t use it. Repentance means to have a changed mind. To say repentance is necessary for salvation is true to the extent that one must change their mind and go from unbelief in Christ to belief in Christ. Show me one place in the Bible where “repent of your sins” is said. You won’t find it, because it’s a made up idea some mistaken fool came up with to confuse people about what repentance actually is. That’s why every time God repented in the Bible was removed in newer translations, in order to create false doctrine, so that people think repentance is something that only happens to man.

      Yeah, Jesus told the woman taken in adultery to “go, and sin no more.” Now hopefully you have a Bible, and a good one. Turn to John 5:14. Jesus healed a man’s infirmity, and then he tells him, “sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.” Sin does not take away salvation. Sin causes chastisement by God for one who is saved. Jesus made it clear that sin can cause an infirmity or worse, so sin should be avoided.

      Since you want to bring up Matthew 7:21, let’s look at what it ACTUALLY says, and also the two following verses. They say that many claiming to know Jesus will be cast into Hell. People who brag about their works. Jesus didn’t say those who believed on Him would be cast out. Religious people will be. Those who think they are so holy and righteous, and have put too much faith in their works. Jesus says here that people who do the “will of my Father” are saved. Turn to John 6:40 to find out what that will is.

      “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

      The very verse you’re trying to use against me is speaking about an entirely different crowd, one that you belong to. I’ve seen it many times. It’s a go to verse for your crowd, and it fails every time.

      Faith without works is dead? Sure. You can possess a dead, unfruitful faith. Did James say salvation without works is dead? No.

      James 2:14: “What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?”

      Titus 3:8: “This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.”

      Do you see the word PROFIT in those two verses? Works are for a PROFIT. They are not done to be saved or maintain salvation. Keep works in their place or you teach heresy.
      Your crowd loves to throw out the old slur “You just love your sins!” That’s just a claim you make in order to build up your unsound doctrines. Sin does not keep anyone from Heaven. Unbelief does. Works are fruit of salvation, but are not necessary to be saved or maintain that status. Teaching otherwise is corrupting the Gospel of Christ, which says Christ did it all on the cross. Toss out the self righteousness and read your Bible. Stop listening to false prophets who have corrupted modern “Christianity.” They are liars and fakes trying to confuse the subject of salvation. Learn what repentance means, and keep works in their rightful place, and you will begin to see the truth. God is not the author of confusion, and it’s time for people to come to their senses and abandon all this heresy coming from people like Paul Washer.

      • mariusjwb // May 12, 2013 at 7:52 pm //

        Dan, “shall we continue that sin may abound? GOD FORBID”! I will have no choice but to keep thoroughly REBUKING and dismantling your false deceptive doctrine on this post.

        You see Dan, again even though God’s Holy word has rebuked and reproved you, you have hardened your heart as the child of the devil you still are and instead of been grateful to God for reproving your satanic erroneous ways you have shaken your fists at the most high. The SCRIPTURES expose your foolishness and yet you PERSIST making yourself an enemy of the cross.
        Again you say “The saved part of me knows I should answer you in a controlled, calm manner. The flesh part of me wants to ask how you can be such an unlearned hypocrite?” Yet you DID say it, didn’t you? Which only goes to prove that you aren’t a spirit filled disciple of Christ, but are still controlled by the flesh.

        That’s exactly why you (just as satan would), accused Paul washer of been of the devil, and we all know that the devil is an accuser. And AS Christ warned about people such as yourself, “Ye shall know them by their fruits.”
        You are bitter, you aren’t long suffering, ignorant, arrogant and filled with hatred, because you are filled with the Spirit of God as of yet unfortunately.
        “Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so. 11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?” (James 3:10-11).
        It’s easy to see the fruits of hatred and darkness in you. Remember what Jesus said, “He who calls someone a fool is in danger of HELL” (and you’ve thrown name callings at Paul Washer worse than that).

        You say “Repentance is not turning from sin, no matter HOW many times you repeat that.”
        I never said that, the NAME on whom you call said that. JESUS said, “UNLESS you REPENT you will all likewise PERISH.” When Jesus said that, He they were trying to bring His attention to those whose blood Pilate had mixed with the sacrifices. The context of the passage was regarding sin.
        You are simply a false convert deceived by lucifer, thinking your safe and headed towards Heaven, but you’re sadly gonna wake up and find yourself in outter darkness, in torment, in hell, because you REFUSED to take instruction from God’s word.
        Also you asked me, where in the Bible it says repent of your sins? Which shows me again how huffed and puffed you were and never read my post thoroughly poor Dan.
        Lol, REPENT means to TURN from your sins, it means a change of mindset.
        Please carefully dear Dan, and don’t let satan still the word of God, are you ready for it? Sure?
        Luke 3:3 “And he went into all the region around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of REPENTANCE for the remission of (((((SINS))))” but because you have made your heart hard against the most high, you eyes just REFUSE to see that. Instead you run off to other scriptures (which you suppose contradict that), but yet scripture NEVER contradicts itself. What are you going to do with ALL these scriptures which prove your evil belief wrong? Do you even know what sin is? It’s anything which goes against the will of God, and YOU are saying that’s ok? Sounds like you’re an advocate of the adversary. The more you type, the more you show how little you understand the scriptures, God and His attributes, His love and the meaning to salvation.

        Jeremiah was commanded by God to speak to the people of Jerusalem against their sins, Isaiah spoke against it, David, Solomon, Paul, Peter, Christ. So if you don’t follow the teaching of the one you call Lord, (“If you love me CONTINUE in my COMMANDMENTS”) that means you’re not Christian at all.
        Those in Matthew 7:21-24 who say Lord, Lord, have we not done this and that in your name Lord are people like yourself Dan. You wish to boast in your own righteous deeds as your assuming as you don’t believe in Lordship salvation you came to Christ of your own accord, not able to comprehend Lordship salvation. MOREVER read verse 21 CAREFULLY, AGAIN Dan. It says “Those who (((((((DO)))))) the WILL over my Father in Heaven. If you do His will, that means to CEASE from SIN (as sin is anything which is against the will of God). That is why Jesus said we are to be PERFECT like our Father in Heaven is PERFECT. However Dan your father satan the accuser is not perfect, and that’s why you refuse to repent of your sins.

        Here is another verse against sin:
        Romans 2:5-6: “But in accordance with your hardness and your IMPENITENT heart you are treasuring up for yourself WRATH in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who “will render to each one according to his (((((DEEDS))))).”

        And Romans (which is meant specifically for people like you who try your utmost to excuse sin) 6:1-2: “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 CERTAINLY NOT! (CERTAINLY NOT DAN) How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?”?????????? I BET you LOVE to avoid that scripture don’t you Dan. As you do with all scripture which rebukes you.

        Acts 3:19: “Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord.”

        Luke 17:3 “Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he REPENTS, forgive him.” (How does he repent? By NOT doing it again).
        You can’t stab me in the back, say sorry for it, yet keep doing it. That makes YOU Dan a hypocrite.

        You have forgotten that Romans 3:23 says the wages of sin is DEATH. You just lack the faith to repent Dan. Remember the Bible says if we believe on Christ and call on His name we SHALL be saved. But you have never believed, you have never called on His name, IF you had, then you would have been drawn to repent of your sins by the Holy Spirit. You would have known the scriptures teach the goodness of God leads you to REPENTANCE.
        Have you ever wondered why you feel the way you do? It’s because you simply cannot cease from sinning, because you have no POWER of Christ in you to overcome your sins.

        As I said, it’s all of grace, God saves who He has chosen from before the foundation of the world (as the scriptures so clearly teach). We who are chosen in Him, are save solely by GRACE, NOT of our works. But because of His work IN us, through the POWER of the Holy Spirit, He works INSIDE of us to REPENT. See I don’t boast in my good deeds (because my righteous deeds are as filthy rags to God), I boast in the cross of Christ, and that is why I have repent of my sins. It’s the gift of the Holy Spirit, which you don’t seem to have.

        It’s always been the case, people like you (worldly carnal people) who have made excuses for sin and generation have come and generation have gone, and where are they now? Except in hell, because they received not the love of the truth, the Bible calls men like you, “men of corrupt minds who cannot cease from sin” (See 2 Peter 2:14). It says that those like you are ACCURSED children because you cannot cease from SIN.
        And John said, “In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” And you know what John said about someone who hates their brother (as you seem to hate Paul Washer so much), that those who hate them, walk in darkness. Yahushua (Jesus) said, LOVE your enemies, bless them. You see that’s just one of the MANY things you refuse to obey and hearken too. It’s sad to see how deceived and mislead you are by satan Dan, and I know unless you repent of your sins and fall at the feet of Christ, you will be cast into everlasting torment, and weep and gnash your teeth for eternity.

        Remember Proverbs 28:13 says: “He who covers his sins will not prosper, But whoever confesses and FORSAKES them will have mercy.”
        You have not forsaken them Dan that’s why you have this spirit of slumber who (like the Pharisees) are forever learning but NEVER able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

        Lastly as Christ said: “STRIVE to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able. 25 When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open for us,’ and He will answer and say to you, ‘I do not know you, where you are from,’ 26 then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.’ 27 But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’” (Luke 13:24-27).
        Don’t be a worker of iniquity that Christ will command depart from Him, don’t be a lukewarm Christian which God will spue out His mouth. Instead be wise, and repent of your sins and fall at the feet of Christ, and start taking up your cross.
        If you were filled with the Holy Spirit, you would know you are called to be separate. Remember the Bible says that if you sin willfully after you have received the knowledge of the truth, that there remains no more forgiveness of sins. That’s what you’re doing, sinning willfully, and thus trampling underfoot the Son of God, like the Pharisees did, who were sinning willfully. Repent while it is still the day of salvation Dan. Maybe God is sending the Holy Spirit to chastise you, which is why you get so upset, and have no self control. The Lord chastises every son He receives.

        Remember and don’t forget 2 Peter 2:14-17: “having eyes full of adultery and that (((((cannot cease from SIN)))), enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are ACCURSED children. 15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man’s voice restrained the madness of the prophet”

        Don’t let a donkey rebuke you too Dan.

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