Serial Killers, Psy Warfare & McGowan’s Programmed to Kill: Jay Dyer/Tim Kelly

Tim Kelly invited me on Our Interesting Times to discuss more about Programmed to Kill and how the book fits well with Hoffman’s Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare.

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2 Comments on Serial Killers, Psy Warfare & McGowan’s Programmed to Kill: Jay Dyer/Tim Kelly

  1. melponeme_k // May 13, 2017 at 1:02 am // Reply

    Interesting talk. But again serial killers have been a part of large human populations for a long time. But they were rare. It very well could be that the psychological warfare practices wanted to create such people which led to Manson and others.

    I disagree with you about alchemy. I’ve read a lot about it. At its basic, it is neutral. But both good and evil can use it. What you discuss with monsanto like food experiments etc., you are discussing alchemy that is inverted and used by Luciferians. Of course, it will be evil when taking that into context. After all you wouldn’t call an Orthodox mass or Catholic mass inherently evil when satanists/luciferians invert them to be used in their black magic. When you see twisted, inverted alchemy in films, it is almost always about accepting royalty as our betters and we should be happy, docile peasants. By shoving alchemy into the evil box, you are also calling most of the great artists of the Renaissance evil as well. You will find it hard to convince me that Da Vinci and Michelangelo or even Bach were evil men. And John Dee is no exemplar. He was part of the Luciferian system. The elites love him, which is why we get scads of movies about him with demons at his beck and call.

  2. Excellent talk. RIP Dave McGowan.
    Yes, the standardized tests are psychometric/behavioral tests masquerading as academic. I have real examples if anyone would like to read them.
    About the unabomber: On a true crime tv show about Ted Kaczynski, his mother explained that he was sick and hospitalized as a toddler and was never the same. Whatever they did to him in the hospital as a baby changed his personality, at least according to this show.
    For Natural Born Killers, I think Tarantino copied the “media hype over the outlaw” and much more from the end of Malick’s 1973 Badlands. Interestingly, the Badlands is about spree killers loosely based on the real story of Charles Starkweather and Caril Fugate. I think it’s probably Malick’s most watchable movie.
    I am in my mid 30’s now and I grew up with the sensationalized serial killer news which has mostly disappeared today. I heard an interview with Dave McGowan in which he nonchalantly makes the observation about how terror attacks have replaced the serial killer news stories to traumatize the public. It was so obvious, how could I not notice?
    These killers have always existed in history, but there was less public awareness and media hype, if you buy that theory. Even the “real wolfman” Beast of Gevaudan where hundreds of women and children were raped and savagely murdered in the 1760’s, but the attacks were blamed on a wolf. Authorities probably couldn’t get away with blaming a wolf today, especially for the rapes. The occult undertones appear in the historic serial murders too. For example in the mid 1500s, killer Peter Niers was using the remains of his victims for black magic rituals. Perusing the ‘list of serial killers before 1900’ wiki page, the occult connections are very apparent.

    By the way, Joel Rifkin was one of the rare serial killers who agreed to be scientifically studied while in jail, supposedly to find out what makes someone a serial killer.

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